. The Clint Smith Signature Government Model, Judge Rules Cell Phone Not a Deadly Weapon, Denies Stand Your Ground Defense in Florida Theater Shooting Trial, Wisconsin Supreme Court: City Cant Ban Weapons from Buses, Gun Review: Springfield Armory Ronin EMP 3 9mm 1911, The New Henry Big Boy Revolvers at NRA Show 2023 [VIDEO], http://en.tracesofwar.com/article/20892/F%FChrer-Headquarters-Adlerhorst.htm. The Thunder Ranch AK pistol also comes with an RD custom SLR Rifleworks 9 M-LOK handguard. I dont huntcity born and raised, I was never taught, and if I shot an animal or a bird, I wouldnt know what to do with it next. In 83 I started my own business, ITC, International Training Consultants, and worked on the road from 1983 to 1993, and the only exception was in 1986 worked for one year setting up the training division for HK America. The ones I built work just as well as the two store-bought ARs I own. The lightning bolt is offense, as required. And its educational. I got to build the Firebox, the North Range, the Playhouse, the new rifle rangeall those things came under my time there. My CAP unit was 2-4-3. As for his assertion not to build an AR15, its good advice for most people because most people dont know what theyre doing with tools or bother to research parts based on compatibility and reliability. A hurricane is a your EDC pistol will do just fine scenario, not a Im going to expend tens of thousands of rounds of ammo scenario. Works the same for guns. The pistol ships with a RD soft case and (1) 30-round magazine. Nothing in this website should be considered personal legal advice. Sounds like a smart man to me, I have But we do know that the AK platform is not the most accurate when accuracy counts. http://www.businessinsider.com/russian-militarys-ak-12-assault-rifle-passed-field-tests-2017-7, http://modernfirearms.net/assault/rus/ak-74-e.html. I think the same thing look at the Retro section of ARFCom and youll see an occasional thread on Air Force GAU-5 Alph/abet/soup guns. I think you underestimate just how much truly cheap surplus x39 is still hanging around in garages and closets. I had not heard of him previously, but Im better educated for now so hearing. Having lived through big ole hurricanes when I lived in Florida, and now living on the edge of Harveys footprint in Texas, it says to me, a couple days of flooding and bad weather, a couple weeks of scarcity of common goods, and several months or years of rebuilding while normal life goes on. Jim Smith of Spartan Tactical Carries a Sphinx, a CZ clone. YT is full of AK vids at 300M+. ", "A reporter did a human-interest piece on the Texas Rangers. What an excellent thing to get in a chest pounding match over, bravo! Staff G.A. 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We respect your privacy and your email address will be kept confidential. This culminated in the founding of I have no idea WTF this moron gun jesus is, but if hes making the argument that an as originally designed AR-platform somehow isnt definitively DI, he needs mental help. But they are just one category of tools (and toys). His experience includes seven Its a viable I had to trade two older S&W .357s and Glock 19 gen 4 to get my Performance Center 627. That allowed for growth in me, and API, American Pistol Institute (now Gunsite), was at a stage in its life where it was growing. Eagle meat is never kosher because of the arrangement of the talons. measure of recoil. (head down, hands in pockets and dragging feet) I guess Ill just have to stick with my XDS and make do. Yellow Devil, if you think that was somehow salty, do stick around, I brook no blatant stupidity or ignorance, and Im happy to argue a point with anyone especially Ian, he should know better. Lack of guns and ammo isnt much of a survival issue but tribal allegiances and power ARE. Building an AR is not rocketry. In the US? That was my first pistol. Anyway, I reckon Mr. Smith would make an awesome muppet, should Disney decide to get a bit edgier than pimping a cloth frog who worries about his pigmentation and fending off an aspiring cross-species love interest. oh, wait you meant um.. nevermind then. The Clint Smith Signature Government Model is built to the same specs as Clints personal Colts, the same guns he carries on a daily basis. Nothings wrong with assembling your own AR. Spend your life using a tool and an AR is no where near the challenge setting the vale lash or run out on a ring and pinon, BTW If you dont have any idea about later then maybe youd be better off buying yours until you have built something that is mechanically challenging before you attempt assembling an AR. I think it is a great way to learn every part of your rifle, and if something breaks you know how to fix it. A complete mishmash of parts, still running. Its available in both .45 ACP and 9mm, but as Landon Stone of Nighthawk related to me, its almost all 9mm now. You lip flapping about me? WebClint Smith Signature. I have a good plan to get out of the suburbs into the country well before its too late and multiple friends with extra temporary living space and extra long arms, and if the time comes that I need a rifle well before then, there will be plenty of common (AR or AK) rifles in common calibers around to acquire/steal/take/etc. Ill throw in my two cents here, which is probably more than my opinion is worth. See how this works? Lucky for me, my sister bought me one for Christmas a few years ago. One of the advantages of the modern war on terror is theres been a remarkable improvement in projectilesDPX, POWR Ball, the Honey Badger. The last bit here is pretty sound advice, but Id still rather have more. Just sayin . Nobody that ever got into a firefight ever said, OH GOD WISH I DIDNT HAVE ALL THIS AMMO. It doesnt happen. My first issued rifle was a GUU-5P (slab side lower, commando 14.5 inch upper) and it sent rounds downrange as reliably as the M4A1 and SOPMOD Block I used later in my career. I would expect no less. WebClint Smith, President, and Director of Thunder Ranch is a Marine Corps veteran of two infantry and Combined Action Platoon tours in Vietnam. Heirloom Precision Gold Line front sight Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Personally I dont see an issue with cartridges like 7.9257 or 300 Blackout for the reasons you mentioned. WebWHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO IN THE CLASS. Ammo is not cheap, range time is not cheap, training is not cheap. Hell, even were a para cord bracelet sometimes. Not that they couldnt, just that they will probably never need to. Hell, I left the Marine Corps with a deep abiding hatred of the DI M16A2 and even I am following my own advice. Last I checked, the definition of DI included operating the carrier. Q:Ive got a classic question that the American Riflemanaudience will appreciate: What is your favorite firearm?A:Thats easy, no brainer, the M1 Carbine. When I was there we started doing double classes, which was really good for growth from an organizational standpoint: How does this range work? But calf head is a very delicious part of southern Germanys or eastern France cuisine. By any chance does it also say to you Move somewhere where there arent any freaking hurricanes?. Id really like to fix that rifle, but all I know is how to use a credit card, sooooooo. Smith & Wesson sells the PERFORMANCE CENTER Model 325 Thunder Ranch: a matte black .45-caliber Scandium-framed revolver, complete with a gold bead sight and undersnout picatinny rail (not shown for some reason). That bad boy msrps at an eye-watering $1,329.00. As for the price of Mr. Smiths carry gun, if you have to ask you cant afford it. Pistol Width: 1.30" Slide Width: 0.92" Grip Thickness: Regular; Weight Empty: 41.3 Oz; Savage Arms Impulse Elite Precision Rifle: New for 2022. Because Im more of a form follows function guy, that colors what I buy. And the AR15 is the standard, end of story. Beavertail grip safety But my first reaction was, No light, no light rail, and no RMR. Good luck finding all that shit weird ammunition, okay, when the apocalypse starts, OK . Some families, you know, dont have guns. Its anall steel 5 Government Model chambered in 45ACP. Three of each gun? I like the M1 because they were built by Winchester, Inland, Saginaw Gear, Rock-Olathe jukebox peoplethey were built by IBM, now the computer people, and others. In this episode of TFBTV filmed at Thunder Ranch, James Reeves interviews legendary trainer and good friend, Clint Smith, about his five favorite guns. The forward assist (Why would I beat something into the chamber that dont want to go on its own) and the charging handle (Any time you dick He suggested a Remington Model 700 action in .308 Winchester, with a 20- to 24-inch barrel. This philosophy carries through into my work and it is my pleasure to individually handcraft each pistol that will be built as part of this special limited run of guns. Just doesnt. Go to a gun show, and see the multiple tables of parts for the AR. Savage Arms Impulse Elite Precision Rifle: ", "The purpose of fighting is to win. The CZ SP-01 Shadow wins most of the IPSC competitions for good reason. These pistols are further enhanced with modifications such as a weld-up frame and slide fit, flattened and serrated slide top with 3-point curved arrow pattern, detailed frame and slide with all lines straighten and trued, rear slide serrations, best quality trigger job, and bordered slide amongst many others. I believe that with every gun I build I have a duty to contribute to the tradition of exceptional handcrafted custom guns and the goal of perfection is the guiding light for everything I do. Then run it. HART is the next step in the precision rifle series that stretches the reach of the of the shooter with their rifle. You should definitely build your own rifle if for no other reason than to learn how to replace parts. All else is supplemental. But.the very vast majority of applications can be resolved quite well with standard Walmart calibers.. Jews dont conspire with eagles in nest building. As it is, buying a high end firearm that just goes up in value, makes a lot more sense than many people that buy a new automobile or truck that loses most of its value within 5 to 7 years. We were very old guys, like 18, 19 and 20, and our Vietnamese counterparts, with the exception of their officer, were 15, 16 and 17, and as soon as they turned 18 they were automatically taken into the ARVN army (Army of the Republic of Vietnam). Yet there is still trade, commerce, farming and rudimentary industry. If Clint says it works, Ill take his word for it. I believe he has good advice but it is still advice. Throw a couple spare part kits in the BOB, and your golden. I remember thinking I was being ripped off at $89 per 1000, but I still bought it. The AR, OTOH, is not cheap to build, took several design changes to become reliable, and is more labor- and parts-intensive to maintain. But buying a second to have spare parts is, IMO, overkill. ", "Every time I teach a class, I discover I don't know something. First, NO ammo will be lying around it will be in someones bunker, even if it wasnt when the SHTF. Novice to deadly competent with good training in under 1,000 rounds. This limited edition AK pistol is built to Smiths design specifications and bears the Thunder Ranch logo with a Tigerstripe finish. Suarez has the RMR topic dialed in. Riots over the results will prevail, resulting in chaos in government. A long time. Absolutely! It makes clearing the chamber of stuck rounds that much easier. New bosssame as the old boss. The 1911 is still viable as a self defense tool. Every last one of them. I also like that caliber for all the reasons cited above. Nick: The AR may be more prone to breakdown than your precious AK, but at least my rifle can actually hit the target.. No matter how many mags, they should all be loaded though. For the first three years it was teachable but slow. Hand-cut 30lpi checkering front and rear Most are probably thinking of the zombie apocalypse where the ammo wont be used if you get bitten. Ironically enough given the popularity of a certain Austrian handgun Mr. Burtons company is dedicated to perfection. ACP-arms response was not quite on the mark. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. So we basically stayed in a village and worked with the Vietnamese soldiers. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. The felt necessity to have one for spare parts does not speak well for the reliability of the platform. As for the price of Mr. Smiths carry gun, if you have to ask you cant afford it. lucky genetics. And if you can afford Mr. Burtons Thunder Ranch 1911, youre going to have to wait. I can build my AR to my needs, and it is just as or more reliable then most manufacturers rifles. If you look at English heraldry, the black shield was always construed to mean a bastard, or someone who was not politically aligned with a king or kingdom. Anything other than an AR15 and you are dependent on a stationary weapons cache at least for parts. So i respect Clints choice for that. If survival of yourself and family is your goal, then it is stupid to look for unnecessary armed conflict. . And keep the change kits available for your ARs on hand. That being said, I still prefer something bigger and badder thats still very common. He has good points. Save your money. Here are the specs: Colt Commercial style thumb safety Kart match grade barrel with stainless barrel bushing Be among the first to hear about gun raffles, firearms training, and special events. Result is that they end up with a gun that short strokes or has weird feeding issues or whatever. His experience includes seven What does a big ole hurricane say to you? I carry a revolver. And that translates to any other AR you may come across from battle field pickup, to a friends rifle. WebThanks mainly to Clint Smith, Mike Venturino and American Handgunner, the 4 Military .44 Special was reborn as the Thunder Ranch Special. Three is two, two is one, one is none, right? The pistol grip comes with various options to include a TangoDown BG-AK, Magpul MOE or Magpul K2 AK grips. Thank you for stopping by my website and join the journey with me. Even if you plan to be a guerrilla fighting the US military or street gangs or whatever, you are an idiot if you plan to be in firefights, constantly needing more ammo. Knock down, durability and feel are my reasons. A beater 400cc dirtbike is lots easier to live with. Carry stuff I want so i can take it from you., Oh, I like that one. Theres a reason there are only a few ways air superiority fighters look: aerodynamics dictate the form. The AK is cheap to build, easy to operate, and extremely reliable. Patrick Sweeney reviews the Nighthawk Custom Combat Special designed by Clint Smith of Thunder Ranch. LOGISTICS should be the most important factor in deciding on a fighting rifle/pistol. and I really like having the light. In this excerpt from arguably the best shotgun course in the country, TFBTV - Combat Shotgun Basics with Clint Smith of Thunder Ranch Good times. rules in favor of concealed carry in national parks. Honestly I would go with an AR in 7.6239. Q:And, just to set the Internet on fire, again9 mm vs. .45, any thoughts?A:Doesnt matter if you dont hit em. Easily. For more on the Thunder Ranch RD700 pistol or other Rifle Dynamic AKs, click here. Heres where Im breaking with Clint. How many parts kits do you see for the AK? Most people will have a hard time moving with 3000 rounds of 5.55 in magazines hanging off of them. Clint and Heidi Smith were generous enough to let TFBTV use Thunder Ranch for free to film this series in order to get the word out at no cost to any of our viewers on how to select and use an urban rifle. You have entered an incorrect email address! Even in most collapsed societies there is more farming and trade and commerce than deadly violence, although there is of course an unacceptable level of violence when order is degraded. There are many guys that do lack the equipment, patience or skills to translate that desire to build their own into reality. Hes a colonel of Marines, and that was box or a niche that I fit nicely into being a corporal of Marines. WebClint Smith, President and Director of Thunder Ranch, is a Marine Corps veteran of two infantry and Combined Action Platoon tours in Vietnam. Do you want to shoot really well in 800 rounds with a $900 gun or 2400 rounds with a $500 gun? Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association. Kimber myself. Or maybe laying next to the dead guy whose rifle you just recovered on the local battlefield. Its a lot cheaper than having someone else do it. As to the video guy, I have to disagree on dont build your AR, buy one! 6. 7.6239 is still one of the cheapest rounds to hoard and even cheap century rifles have a life span of 60000 rounds or more. Does that 33 minutes include the haggling over the price? Clint taps into a half-century of firearms training experience and his personal preferences to tell TFBTV viewers which guns he loves the most. The entire industry SHOULD revisit the triangle bolt design from the Leader Dynamics MK2 and engineer a retrofit for the AR15. Fuck me right? Shop for your 22 ammo too! To stay up to date with the website, hit that subscribe button. But the issue is that, even with todays great prices, buying three gets to be an expensive proposition. [], By Drew BryantAugust 16th, 2022, theloadoutblog.com. Someones never seen hurricane damage at ground level. Bravo! It was just management, taking the pieces and putting them in the boxes where they fit. Read today's "The Armed Citizen" entry for real stories of law-abiding citizens, past and present, who used their firearms to save lives. If it doesnt exist, create it. Buckeye Firearms Association is a grassroots organization dedicated to defending and advancing the right of citizens to own and use firearms for all legal activities, including self-defense, hunting, competition, and recreation. The .38 Smith & Wesson Special, designed in 1898, rocked the handgun realm with its ballistic performance making it a cartridge for the history books. How long you live depends on how well you do it. If you want it, youre going to have to take out the owner first. WebM4E1 TR EDITION. Not so easy to use your third, broken rifle for parts if you have no idea how the rifle goes together in the first place. I dont think the caliber is relevant, I think people need to carry a caliber that they can consistently and repeatedly hit a target with, and control. Save your marriage. I live in a largish and fairly homogeneous town; rioting is extremely unlikely. Ummm, for those of us that dont create the kind resources that Clint Smith does with his training facility, Im sure a $10,000 dollar carry gun doesnt make much sense, but if you or I were making probably at least a six figure income, like Clint does, it probably would be different. No, Ill save my money instead. Building an AR-15 is not hard. If youre trying to kill something bigger, its not enough gun. And management comes through practice, practice, practice. Solid battle tested and reliable. I really dont get a ten grand handgun of any stripe, barring the extraordinarily rare or the extremely enhanced/decorated, in which case youre paying for the engravers painstaking time and skill. Meh. It still shoots sweet! Guns and ammo are for the less-than-total collapse. Mr. Smith also have Les Baer make a line of 1911 with his Thunder Ranch name on them. Q:How did you go from a Marine in a CAP unit in Vietnam to founding Thunder Ranch?A:OK, so long story short, I came back from the Marine Corps and went into law enforcement. In an apocalyptic circumstance, I will die soon enough that all this prepping is an exercise in futility. Too late. In my minds eye, it was the last true example of American industrial might coming together for a common goal, to fight a common enemy. Q:What is the most common mistake that you see while training, and what is the correction?A:Manipulation of the trigger. Whats the problem with that? Ive built three, including one from an 80% upper, and guess what? Then ask why there arent tables of parts for the AK. So no, none of my AR magsthe three ten rounders I ownare loaded. And ammo is still plentiful. You may be able to save yourself and your family. I dont understand the snobbery about AR builds. (I also have a Mini-14, just in case things really get ugly and I get attached by broad sides of barns.). I would contend they and all Poly auto owners would ALL shoot even better with an SP-01, and probably a good 1911 like a $1500 Kimber. That way, you know your rifle, its parts, how its built and functions. Which is why a .357 rapidly loses velocity and muzzle energy when the barrel length drops below 4. In which case markets, farming, commerce and industry will still exist, albeit perhaps degraded. Mr. Smith is noted for his common sense quotations about guns and personal defense. .a pill container full of Prozac ? Third, it only matters how much ammo is lying around if youre planning on being PART OF the SHTF, i.e., youre planning on getting into fire fights on a daily basis. the AK 15 passed trials and will be issued WITH the AK 12 and a new RPK chambered in. ", "I carry a gun cause a cop is too heavy. ", "The two most important rules in a gunfight are: always cheat and always win. And, Im positive, the vast majority of ARs do. Still, every place has its drawbacks. Without getting into the differences between .223 and 5.56 both are perfectly viable out to ranges beyond which most people can shoot without optics. Building an AR isnt exactly difficult, unless you start with an 80% lower. it has niche applications in AR platforms, but then again, it defeats the purpose of using intermediate rounds for all-round use. Take the best that exists and make it better. And I was far from the only one. And that a simpler, less ambitious design should break less. In the middle of a firefight, that is not where I want to be! And I even messed up some of the milling on my 80%. At my age, they way I do things isnt likely to change either. In the video below, gravel-voiced Thunder Ranch gun guru Clint Smith (not shown above) pontificates on a number of gunfighting topics at a recent rifle course. Clint Smith (Owner of Thunder Ranch) had Aero Precision cut out a section of the magwell on both sides. If nothing else . A recoil-operated semi-automatic pistol, chambered in either .45 ACP or 9 mm Luger, the Combat Special is a blending of Smiths old-school grit with the old-world I am no operator by any means but, when he states that with three guns you can always strip one for parts to keep the other two up and running, this is where it would be nice to have the tools and knowledge that you gained by building rifles. Would a slower acceleration down the barrel of the heavier slug change the feel of the recoil impulse?
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