He was never convicted of anything that was deemed to be serious enough to have him put back in the years '67~'69. It's a matter of public record, I've seen the court documents but I don't remember where, I think those were the same charges Dean and Tex borrowed Melchers car to drive to court for. Krenwinkel did not see the flag on the couch. In order for me to know "better" you need to stop speaking in riddles and like Nehemiah, say it straight and say it straight where you're blogging ! A search of newspapers.com shows that he grew up in Kendallville, Indiana, got married to Mary Worch of Santa Monica on Jan. 7, 1952, and that his father worked in the circus. A lot of people who were involved in this event are dead now, some won't talk and others have spoken of what they know. When Reeve starting working for the CIA is unknown. The similarities include a close relationship with Manson, the desert ranches, Skorzeny, drugs, a probable link to a very secret CIA division, and he was a killer. Then Ashley explores mystery man Reeve Whitson and his connection to the case, before taking a closer look at the operations conducted by the CIA and FBI in the Los Angeles and San Francisco areas during the 1960s. In the case of Sharon's car, it didn't really matter because the book came out 3 years after the perps were convicted, 5 years after the crime was solved. 8. Dr Paul Andrews, a CIA physician, woke up with permanent brain injuries without any physical infliction. Family, friend, or fan, this family history biography is for you to remember Reeve Whitson. Regardless, most of the info on my friend's father matches the info on Whitson. Shahrokh Hatami, Tate's personal photographer, admits to O'Neill that he learned of the murders by telephone, from an intelligence agent named Reeve Whitson, ninety minutes before the police were even called to the scene. I spot them right away. And life just gets more better and more clearer! Thabk you, Bunkhouse, Does anyone have any additional info on Reeve Whitson? As I said on the other blog, the other day I hate Bittaker with a passion. O'Neill also quotes the LAPD's Lt. Helder, who refers to Whitson in the book "Five Down at Cielo Dr" under a pseudonym "Walter Kern," confirmed by LaJeunesse. ONeal's lousy, undocumented conspiracy book?I actually learned it initially from Cielodrive.com. Oddly, he frequently took his daughter with him on these flights. Extensive research and a slew of FOIA requests did not produce a smoking gun or much beyond the shadowy, ill-explained presence around these events of Reeve Whitson, an alleged "intelligence operative." O'Neill also examines the CIA program MKULTRA, which may have gotten him closer to his goalbut not much. ZLR 694 belonged to Sharon's Camaro. Thank you, Bunkhouse. There is a lot more here that doesn't add up. But you frequently mention that he never said anything about a race war, but that he mentioned 'revolution.' Whitson and Bugliosi then coerced Hatami's testimony by threatening him with deportation. "I agree. "Hatami told me he has no memory at all of Manson coming to the front door of Cielo Drive, but that the memory was suggested to him by an investigator named Reeve Whitson, who worked for both Col. Paul Tate and the prosecutor Vince Bugliosi." The only reference to a Reeve Whitson online is to a CIA operative active in central America in the '80s. He got a call from Reeve Whitson at 7:00 in the morning, a full NINETY minutes before Winifred Chapman arrived at the Cielo houseYou do realize that if this is true, that Hatami witheld crucial information from the Police, went on the stand and testified in a trial and basically stood by while someone was tried and sentenced to death and now is happy for all the world to know this !However, I am not disputing O'Neill's sources. Well, the obvious question to me would be "why would he be talking about a race war to a complete stranger in January of 1969 ?" I traced Whitson online. Reeve Whitsons father knew his son was going to the Cielo house the night of August 8. Oh Mario I wasn't even talking about you! He also confirmed a detail from Ed Sanders' "The Family" that Melcher had let him borrow his Jaguar for the long drive to UkiahThis might be high tension wire drama.were it not for the fact that this has been public record since 1971. I've got several comments to make but right now I'm dealing with some personal crap. Hey grimtraveller,I'm also glad you're backPlease check-out the comments from this blog-posthttp://www.lsb3.com/2019/08/leave-something-witchy.html?m=1pertaining to comments by myself, Bobby, & Ms Katie regarding"The Construction Site. Melcher moved out in January '69 and the day after he moved out, Moorehouse was sent to prison for selling acid ~ he'd been found guilty on Dec 17th '68.Vera: Where'd ya learn that, Grim? If the man had any relationship with the US government, he'd have had health coverage. It belonged to them. In the Sanders book that I have it says Hearst delivered the bike between 6.30 and 7.30 which, according to Hearst is accurate as he testified arriving "about 7.00pm" and left "about 7.20. Lazy, perhaps. He'd been talking to Gregg Jacobson about a race war {known then as "the shit is coming down" but it was very general} since they first met in May of '68. There's a clip on YouTube of him explaining away his crimes to a reporter, everything is poor me, no one ever gave me any help, I just thought I'd try out some fantasies, etc, he's a sick sick dude, I agree with you on Kay, I'd like to sit down in a bar one night and listen to some stories, he seems like a really nice guy, Article I wrote a few months ago fills in some blanks on Reeve Whitson from 1967-1977:https://zodiackilleridentified.com/2021/07/I have another article of his career from 1977-1989 which is even more enlightening. Now, we have 2 men claiming to be the driver of the white sports car on the night of the LaBianca killings and a virtual "after hours" Cielo party involving Robert Linkletter, Charlie, the mystery partner and Reeve Whitson.Blimey !In spite of his disclaimer to Rosenfelt, I think he was part of the plot to kill them and subsequently got involved in the subsequent cover-up of the role of the CIA and military intelligence in the murders. He absolutely did not. I did not mean the 'scene' of the crime, rather the general milieu around crime scene before and afterI wondered about that but it works either way. According to Bugliosi, p. 85, the time was between 7:30 and 8:00. My friend's father was an ACE pilot who could supply anything covert. TY, https://zodiackilleridentified.com/2021/07/. ONeill got an unpublished manuscript called Five Down at Cielo Drive written by three authors, Lt. Helder, Paul Tate, and an FBI man named Roger LeJeunnesse. This is from the Twilight Zone! He dumped bodies in Portland and there are a bunch of missing prostitutes in that time frame in Portland as well. Reeve John Whitson 1924 1994 Indiana California Reeve John Whitson, 1924 - 1994. Is there a pic with the couch with a flag?I can look, but I have to say, I'm just exhausted and will retire for the night.And don't nobody say "yeah". Anderson was a known handler of CIA operatives after he left government in the early 60s. Reeve Whitson slept on a cot in his parents' kitchen, drove a Pinto, and left unpaid hospital bills when he died. Folger, a former air intel officer in WWII, still kept close ties to the government. Good to see you!! Her Aunt says my friend knew several foreign languages and had a photographic memory back then. Chapters are as followed: Prologue The Crime of the Century An Aura of Danger The Golden Penetrators The Holes in Helter Skelter Amnesia at the L.A. County Sheriff's Office Who Was Reeve Whitson? hb`````fc`e`-bb@ ! 00 10(tl Who. He didn't "bring" Hatami. William Weston said Hatami also told ONeill that he first heard about the murders from Reeve. I really loved Peter Levenda's "Sinister Forces" three volume set. I have these numbers from ONeills book in reference to Hatami and Whitson: 22239, 14483, 14508, 14542, 14554There's nothing connected with him on page 22239 ~ that's Squeaky's testimony. Ha! And did he not usually have permission for the few occasions he travelled out of state ? I have a really good memory because I have OCD, the only good gift from my diagnosis. CIA was all over the first famous killer, Manson, like flies on shit. What can anyone remember about a place they went yesterday, and I mean detail specific ? BUGLIOSI:I guess you could say thatQ:In connection with your duties thereto and therewith, did you have occasion to interview the preceding witness in your office in the month of April, 1970?A:Yes. This cannot be correct. All the other times he is mentioned by Bugliosi.Going back to the point about Whitson suggesting the memory of Manson being the one that Sharon looked at that day back in March '69, Hatami has always been consistent ~ he has no recollection of ever seeing Manson in the flesh. I hate him too. As anybody who has been within shouting distance of me over the past 2 years know, I consider Tom O'Neill's CHAOS: Charles Manson, the CIA, the Secret Histor. This is a bit off topic. hbbd```b`` WA$#. This was essential because Sharon and Jay might have put up quite a fight with their martial arts skills acquired from training by the master Bruce Lee. The Family only first heard about HS on new years eve 1968. William Weston said "according to the Marie Vigil letters, the man who left the eyeglasses was Robert Linkletter. Mario George Nitrini 111 saidnice to see you're in top form being skeptical about me..lolI am, if nothing else, consistent on that !In all seriousness though, the dictionary definition of sceptical is "not easily convinced; having doubts or reservations. When Manson and one of his CIA handlers, Reeve Whitson, rearranged the Tate murders crime scene before anyone else got there, they were literally setting the stage for the upcoming theatrical production. Reeve Whitson was born March 25, 1931. In fact, it's Bugliosi that brings out the fact that Whitson was with Hatami and his part in all the proceedings is as relevant as any flies that may have been in the office at the time. My conclusion, given the research I've done so far, is MY FRIEND"S FATHER KNEW WHITSON (if Whitson existed) and used Whitson's information to disguise himself or Whitson used my friend's father's info to add to his own. I'm not getting that from Helter Skelter, I'm getting that from Candace Bergen's auto-bio. He (O'Neill) said nothing to that effect. But his daughters ? View the profiles of people named Reeve Whitson on Facebook. They had dinner at the restaurant and left about 9:45. The following book about the Nazis, published in 1961 shows this fact on page 1 where the title and name of Reeve Whitson appears. Other than Gregg Jacobson and Stephanie Schram's sister, virtually no one outside the Family {or close contacts like Juan Flynn} has a pre~August '69 concept of HS. 1. . Or better yet, he's like "The Flash". Lotus, Brabham, McLaren, Cooper and a few others joined, but the venture failed because Whitson . I'd welcome any theories or additional info one may want to share and I'll share the info I have. "pg190Neil Cummings, lawyer friend of Whitson: "when it came to Manson, he "was closer to it than anybody..""He was actively involved with some sort of investigation when it happened. He did this throughout the 60s and 70s. Moorehouse was a bum! Along with Zamora's book {of whom he is highly critical} and John Baer's wife's book, it is gold dust for seeing the jury's perspective. His daughter is a Bluebird survivor and her memories are returning in fractured pieces. Correction of typo:[He said] it was impossible that hed move into the Cielo house in January 1969O'Neill's article can be found on the internet, or you can read about Moorehouse in O'Neill's book on pages 116-119. Ask yourself what it logically means to have "witnesses that vouch for Whitson's presence in the scene." It's all bullcrap, I may not be a believer in Helter Skelter being the motive but some of these conspiracy theories are beyond ridiculous, Reeve knew where all the bodies were buried, and who was involved. I can't imagine Paul Tate lauding someone who could have prevented his daughter's death. Who is he again ? I saw footage of Manson the other day claiming he'd gone up to the Tate house before Chapman arrived to "see what my children had done." Reeve Whitson of Ireland and James Webber of England shake hands on the 18th hole at the end of their singles match on the final day of the Boys Home. Being arrested is not an offence let alone proof of guilt, let alone a conviction. About the same time, the dogkeeper William Garretson, arrived back at the guest house, transported by hippies in a van who gave him a ride from Sunset Boulevard. I'm almost endlessly fascinated by the number of people who seem to have made it their life's mission to discount the overwhelming evidence that demonstrates that for the most part, things were as they were shown to be. He's scared to die now that he's in he's eighties, so I don't see him killing himself. And this has been going on since the start of 2017. O'Neill said he got his copy of the book from another journalist. But I've got my eye on you. He was involved in the two Kennedy assassinations as well as the MLK assassination, the CIA in Operation Bluebird, biker gangs and worked at Lookout Mountain Air Force Station at the top of Laurel Canyon. But can you tell me where you read that Mike Deasy attacked Charles Manson with a pitchfork at Spahn's Ranch?I've never said that I read this. Melcher moved out in January '69 and the day after he moved out, Moorehouse was sent to prison for selling acid ~ he'd been found guilty on Dec 17th '68.The interesting thing about the Hearst times in "HS" is that both in terms of the police report and the court testimony, what is given in the book is inaccurate but not exactly uncheckable and not of earth shattering proportions. [3] During World War II he enlisted in the . Border Patrol agents finally breached the door about 40 minutes to an hour later when a staff member gave them a key. The Manson Family was certainly involved, but they were not the only ones. Did he betray his friends? I've always been a massive skeptic- ironically I'm a huge fan of Bugliosi's Reclaiming History. Private Investigator Reeve Whitson CIA? He also confirmed a detail from Ed Sanders The Family that Melcher had let him borrow his Jaguar for the long drive to Ukiah.So Buglisois timeline was wrong and Melcher lied to me. It's a strange coincidence. Someone you don't know, ostensibly on the other side of the world, appears and starts making claims about "HAPPENINGS" at "SPAHN RANCH" when some bikers hung up there at the same time a group of people that spawned a number of murderers. I wouldn't believe a word that came out of his mouth. William Garretson claimed that on the afternoon of August 8 while hitchhiking back to Cielo, some guy dressed as a hippie, picked him up. He mentioned him once. I'm pretty sure the last time Doris was in the house was for the watching of the moon landing but I do remember her saying it was there though I highly doubt it was upside down like the pics from Aug 9 show, I can't imagine that would be too cool with Col Paul lol, Just as a general statement regarding the killers you have to take into account that BY THEIR OWN ADMISSION they took HUNDREDS of trips on hallucinogenic drugs in addition to smoking marijuana daily, these people are bound to forget various things that most look at as things that are mere footnotes such as what piece of furniture was where, who said what first, where the flag was, what time it was, etc, etc. Or was he himself a willing pawn in a greater scheme he wasn't aware of?The CIA are not nice guys. He also knew Charles Manson. Oddly, he frequently took his daughter with him on these flights. He was very, very helpful. Now, you'll know from past exchanges that I don't take what you have to say with any seriousness, not because I'm disinterested in what you say, but because you continually dangle but don't deliver. Why did he not warn his friends Roman, Sharon and Jay? But getting arrested is only the start point of a long and difficult process. Bums don't earn a living with a paying job, they just move from camp to camp and sponge off folks.If Moorehouse lived at Cielo Drive when Melcher was there, it's news to me. As I have indicated on an earlier thread, according to the Marie Vigil letters, the man who left the eyeglasses was Robert Linkletter. They weren't even in the same vicinity while True lived at the house next door.And personally, I wouldn't read O'Neill's book unless someone bought it for me and gave it to me. And it just so happens to be from a case that has given rise to so many alternative theories and conspiracies and not a great deal of consensus about anything. William I think Doris saw that flag on the couch a couple of days before the murders. TJ ? The first car he asked about was Abigail's. My book, CHAOS: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties, covers a lot of ground, police and prosecutor corruption, secret and mostly illegal government counterintelligence operations against American citizens (like the CIA's MKUltra and CHAOS, and the FBI's COINTELPRO), and, yes, the Manson Family murders of 1969. That guy was a nut-job! The last is the clincher. Little Paul ?If I come across as harsh, I don't mean to. He probably didn't mention his Mum or his son but it doesn't mean they weren't in his mind. So that got my train of thought going and I looked into it. Chapter 11 - Mind Control; Chapter 10 - The Haight-Ashbury Free Medical Clinic; Chapter 9 - Manson's Get-Out-of-Jail-Free Card; Chapter 8 - The Lawyer Swap; Chapter 7 - Neutralizing the Left; Chapter 6 - Who Was . I hardly think she was looking at furnishings in the house when Tex "sic'd her" on the residents. I've never heard of this Reeve guy in my life"His name first popped up in the book 'Sharon Tate - A Life' by Ed Sanders, which came out in 2016:"..Hatami testified at the trial that Manson wanted to know where 'somebody' lived - referring to Terry Melcher. Or Sonny Reevwhit.Or Reevie Sonwhit. In spite of his disclaimer to Rosenfelt, I think he was part of the plot to kill them and subsequently got involved in the subsequent cover-up of the role of the CIA and military intelligence in the murders. Delivering arms, drugs, people, children were his usual business. Grim saidSanders is right.The first Tate homicide report states exactly what Sanders says in your quote. All the other times he is mentioned by Bugliosi.Thanks, Grim, for giving us the testimony. Whitson had the Tate house under surveillance, which is how he knew something was going to happen. Are YOU REAL. I've thought to myself many times:what if one of those girls would have come over and talked with me, would I have "followed-her-around? CAROL!!! Neutralizing the Left The Lawyer Swap Manson's Get-Out-of-Jail-Free Card The Haight-Ashbury Free Medical Clinic Mind Control Where Does It All Go?
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