In one of the videos, the girls dance around an operating room singing about the joys of surgery as they reveal their new faces. Beautiful bone structure and nearly perfect facial aesthetics. It also has created an identikit model, a face stamped out of a mold, and a replacement of one's identity with one of conformity. "My cousin had her nose and eyes done, my mom had her eyes done, and my aunts had noses and eyes done, all in Korea," she says. Korean plastic surgery is amazing (pics) dam Today, 07:53 PM #2. To conclude this essay(lol), I just want the people in this thread to know that they are simply beautiful the way they are and if they alter their looks through enhancement, it doesn't change who they are as a person. "When you go to the Gangnam area in Seoul, many girls' faces are similar," said schoolgirl Chae Jeongwon. ", This perspective ties into what Dr. Eugenia Kaw calls the "self-racism subtext." Speaking during an appearance onRadio Star, Jessi recalled how shebroke down in tears when she came around after a double surgery, deeply unhappy about the results she compared herself to Pinocchio. This thread contains 219 more posts that have been hidden for guests, please. Race changing plastic surgery is Prince. ", Dr. Park disagrees. It's so understandable though. ", Professor Hejiin Lee finds this mini revolution positive: "Korea is an amazing place because it changes so quickly. And one of the prettiest noses in the game (sure, a bit of help, but whatevs, most idols who end up looking naturally gorgeous were already naturally gorgeous in the first place). We -- Americans -- might not see plastic surgery on the same level here that we see in Korea. None of this was so when the American plastic surgeon Dr. Ralph Millard arrived in South Korea in 1954. MY victory, one SYNK DIVE. Beautiful girl, but it's very obvious she's had work done(and she's a 04 liner!). "They don't even put you to sleep, all you have to do is lay down.". ", "In Korea, for a woman to be capable, it's not enough just to have a certain skill set " she said. However, what was interesting is that over the years his confidence has changed(to be honest so much of his value as an idol has been placed in his visuals I'm not surprised). I had a thought the other day that I need some feedback on. I am wondering who in Kpop actually has a damn good surgery done in your opinion? A big industry ensures they stay that way. Her weight fluctuates and so does her face. Kim had full support from her family for these operations. When Momoland performed at theSoribada Best K-Music Awards in 2019, JooE looked even less like her pre-debut pics, leaving numerous people convinced that she'd undergone double eyelid surgery. This thread is for general discussions of plastic surgery and speculating celebrities in South Korea (or other parts of Asia) which may have had plastic surgery. I'm going to bring it up for elegance. On the subject of Itzy - I've noticed Yeji looking subtly differently lately, especially in her Studio Choom teaser. It's easy! These surgeries are so common that patients rarely take more than a day or two off to recover. Every time someone mentions plastic surgery in kpop and I bring out how Hani's face has changed since their debut era I get downvoted/angry answers saying that she has just "lost a ton of weight in the last years and that's the only thing that makes her look different", but hmm, I don't think your ENTIRE bone structure/chin/jaw can change this . You have no idea what you are saying lol. Hwang has been happy to dish the dirt on his plastic surgery, openly discussing his nose job. The surgery quickly caught on. Okay, sorry, back to the implants and fillers! I wouldnt recommend buccal fat removal though since your cheeks start to sag at 30 years old and get premature ageing in the process. Flower field, that's where I'm at. Like once you hit 30 you pretty much ruined your face because of this trend and would need to get fillers due to the excess sagging. I wonder if that's from weight loss, natural aging, or maybe buccal fat removal. Look at the cupid's bow. Beautiful girl, but it's very obvious she's had work done, Really ? The group's lead vocalist admitted that surgery made her a "much prettier and happier" person during an appearance on Korean talk show Radio Star(via AllKpop), and host Kim Gu Ra agreed. Park Chaeyoung . ", He turns to me. Korean-American singer and rapper Jessica Ho (better known simply as Jessi)had a traumatic experience with plastic surgery early in her K-pop career. When he talks, his hands hit the mahogany tabletop for emphasis. she asks the doctor. "Within a week it will be much smaller. Sharon Hejiin Lee, an assistant professor in the department of social and cultural analysis at New York University, explains that, right or wrong, Korean women are themselves propagating these expectations. let us gather around for the lords prayer: Nvis we love you. Children are considered an embodiment and reflection of their parents' status, and to this end they are shaped and molded -- through intense schooling, but also through surgery to be the best they can be. None of these operations, however, are as radical as what she wants to do next. So Ill say she looks hot and nothing Uncanny-Valley-like. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy. Thread lift is a cosmetic procedure that offers a minimally invasive alternative to facelift surgery. Korean-American singer and rapper Jessica Ho (better known simply as Jessi) had a traumatic experience with plastic surgery early in her K-pop career. she went for that gangnam unnie atheistics, Im not a fan of plastic surgery but people can do it if they want its their choice their body, although I do wish people would be more honest about it instead of saying its all natural when it obviously isnt, Im not trying to bash Lisa, she is beautiful but her nose looks really different, but who knows, it could be ps, it could just be puberty, but its not my business she can do whatever she wants, Chungha had done ps even before joining pd101. Other groups can kind of turn off their fame in this sense whereas BTS can't. I agree with you, Minnie definitely got something done to her nose bridge; it looks higher. Millard's reasoning was that creating a more Western look would help Asians assimilate better into an emerging international economy. I hope I explained clearly enough lol, That's where issue lies, people see with more ps, their face gets more accepting of the said feature and it's usually fine if they stop at this point. Kang NaYeon said she is a "little scared" about having surgery. "But just because the price is low, there may be other complications. The two operations are so common that they are not called surgery, but a "procedure. "Strangely, we can still recognize the face she had before," one pleasantly surprised fan said (via Koreaboo). Every Plastic Surgery Thread in a Nutshell, Why do 3rd/4th Gen stans like to go like "who are these old groups they made no impact I don't know them", Tzuyu is one of the most demanded face for plastic surgery in japan. Most minor facial PS (which 99% of the work in Kpop) has a fairly quick turnaround time. The same can't be said for the V-line surgery, but not everyone is aware of that. "This is just swelling from the injections," he assures her. Most of the time there is little to no pain associated with passing the threads. threads like this are a bad and pointless idea. You are the one who protected me when i was in trouble. Surgery for beautification purposes worked its way into mainstream culture. Also just because I keep having this thought in my head, but I feel so sad for the kpop idols younger than 2018 years old that have gottennumerous things done to their face. Most female idols 90% have all had surgery. Ahn Hyejin . "A lot of people ask me if I got plastic surgery after debut," she said (via KpopRants). It was so well done and completely highlighted her beauty . "I think if technology gets more advanced, maybe in the future everyone will get surgery, and then everyone will be beautiful! Twenty-four-year-old Miss Lee sits on a leather dentist chair in Dr. Kang's office. "There were a frenzy of comments," she said (via AllKpop), explaining that the shape of her nose is the result of a procedure that has changed over time. No surgeon would recommend her getting one either with that face lol. "There's a real problem when you make generalizations about a whole country full of women, that they're all culturally duped," Hejiin Lee said in an interview. Kpop - Worst Outfits. Korean Air now requires male cabin crew to attend -- and to learn how to blush and bronze themselves. The mad rush to economic growth and wealth will likely weaken as the economy matures. Plastic Surgery Thread #4 Anonymous 02/12/2023 (Sun) 04:01:10 No. Dont have an account yet? The fame would be tiring except thattheir schedule still remains packed. I legit don't think anyone in treasure had any surgery tho. Jessi openly discussed her enhanced bust onSection TV (via KPopMap), telling host Jeon Hyun-moo that it's better to be open about plastic surgery: "I think it's funnier if people get surgery and try to hide it.". allkpop is a registered trademark of 6Theory Media, LLC. Seonghee giggles and hides behind her long bangs. "Eyes there were slanty and sleepy." She actually had some subtle changes here and there and all of it was definitely an enhancement and she looks great. and maybe he just grew out of that image, maybe the fame changed him, we will never know. Her face is too round, she thinks; her lips too thin, her nose not quite right. K-pop Idols Who Underwent Plastic Surgery, According to Netizens Netizens claim that aside from his nose and eyes, Kai's sexy lips were also done. I know your sacrifices. NaYeon shudders. Yes. And her styling significantly improved since debut. Unhappiness with appearance is de rigueur for many teenagers, but for Korean Americans perhaps more than any other ethnic group, this is increasingly being addressed with a scalpel. Silhouette Plastic Surgery Institute Oct 2005 - Apr 2010 4 years 7 months. 2007 - 2023 6Theory Media, LLC. , i mean it depends on the person of course, a lot of idols dont have super straight jawlines either, and no doubt some of them get surgery for that, but in general, lean adult men usually have pretty defined jawlines, DIA CHAEYEON. Eh I don't wanna trigger ARMYs but from a body language POV, his posture does point to him being cocky/arrogant. Take Lee Jong Suk for instance. Genuine question bc I genuinely have no idea how you would tell. "Because we are celebrities, it is impossible for us not to consistently monitor ourselves," Narsha said. ", These two procedures have led to questions of whether Korean women were trying to look Western. "If I pick my nose, I'm also picking my ear," she joked. I learned that the idols have to cater to look and act a certain image and many achieve it through other means than just dieting and exercise. Clinics in Korea offer the V-line operation to medical tourists and say they only need "stay a week" to see the procedure out. Its geared to more older people nor does Sana have saggy skin that needs tightening or a lift. What is considered a heavy-duty operation in the maxillofacial dental world is considered a common everyday, operation in Korea, and the altered face shape has created a distance between the women and their ethnic background. "There are strict rules about women's appearance in the workplace," Turnbull said. That and buccal fat removal + facial contouring is popular with Korean idols from what Ive been seeing. "It's a new thing -- it wasn't around 20 years ago.". There are no real incisions, only entry points for the threads. You can expect for it to fall between 6M to 9M Korean won. "K-pop is a package that's not confined to the music," he said. By industry standards this is the norm. In total, you're looking at $7,000 ~ $9,500 of course this can be higher or lower depending upon length of stay and your standards of living. OneHallyu 2022. She did. Remember, when you move the jaw backwards you make the airwaves smaller. ", As James Turnbull, a writer and lecturer in Korea on feminism and pop culture, noted, "The idea here is that you like the appearance of the 'idols' and you should try and look like them.". However, Shindong isn't afraid to speak his mind, on any topic he caused outrageduring a radio interview when he said women shouldn't be overweight but it was okay for men to be obese. ryujin was praised for her healthy/thick body and now her and yuna are stick thin. Male cosmetic surgery is also on the rise, though they still only make up a small percentage of operations. Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. "The Brown Eyed Girls wasn't so attractive at the time of their debut," he said bluntly. The stress on aesthetics-by-knife is part of a strange cultural mix of the modern and the ancient in South Korea today. As a stan we should realise they clearly have way more work done than the average person, but they are also on camera way more than the average person, Well most idols get ps in their teen years. Dr. Kang offers consultations and injectables in the Manhattan office and performs surgery in Queens. I truly feel bad knowing he's lost his grandparents and close friends to death in just the past5 years. "I'm planning on getting more done. The New York native had a hard time. I don't know what happened in this picture and why there are two white marks on her upper lip but this is not overdrawn. 34,923 788 154. Walk-ins are held every weekend in both South Korea and the United States, according to Seoul Beats, with some of the industry's top companies opening offices in New York to scope out potential talent Stateside. If society wasn't so harsh, people would embrace the different kinds of beautyeach one of us have. I don't think so. And what this illustrates is that it's really circular and moving in many different directions.". Sign up for a new account in our community. Families embrace traditional routines such as dining and living together, but equally encourage their children to work 18 hour days at school. The city even has an "Improvement Quarter" where there are reportedly as many as 500 clinics within a square mile offering a variety of procedures at increasingly affordable prices. "There are certain economic situations happening in Korea and America that might impel different choices. For example, if you have a round face and rounder softer features, you just can't get a sharp anime nose, that's not how it works. "After a week all the postoperative care is ended and there is nothing that I can help them with. "When we perform the V-line -- we call it orthognathic surgery -- we have regular follow-ups with the patients. K-pop groups differ from the majority of their Western counterparts in that they're formed via a large-scale auditioning process similar in format to shows such asAmerican Idol. I know she had a complex about how big her nose was but Dr.Kim did a great job, since most surgeons would just give her the typical straight tip nose instead of trying to find something that works well with her face and nose as its quite big. Most idols have plastic surgery and people who insist they don't are delusional First of all I think there's nothing wrong with PS, as soon as I have enough money I might do some too. Fans furious after a German tabloid writes that Jimin looks like he had plastic surgery. Then on the other hand, you have people like Jungkook, V, and Yeji who have like god-tier nose jobs. The country is the most wired in the world, with the highest rate of smartphone usage -- 67 percent -- and 95 percent of Korean homes having internet access. Discuss PS and cosmetic procedures in kpop here. 2007 - 2023 6Theory Media, LLC. "There is obviously a part of us that wants to be pretty, but because the public looks at our visual, I think it's possible to fix a few things as long as you're not greedy in order to live up to those visual expectations. But if you inspect Asian celebrities, they all have small jaws and cheekbones. plastic surgery exists, let's move on. "I found out about this when I was in elementary school.". Helping the rise of V-line surgery is the laissez faire attitude about recovery implications. Do you know what a face lift is? "A small face is pretty," she says. Do your research if you want to know more better solutions for having great teeth and the best results. "I know a hospital that's really good at that, all it takes is one shot," he said. The reaction has been a largely negative one, with many fans suggesting that the money would have been better spent on Six Bomb's production quality rather than its members' appearances. This includes double eyelid surgery, breast augmentation, jaw reduction, forehead lift and rhinoplasty procedures etc. Between the cupid's bow and the lip line there is this thin highlighted line. One member who has definitely had work done is Shindong, who revealed that he was pressured to do so by his management. For those who are against PS, the thread is not for you. I dont get what got over her, if it was suggested by the company or it was a personal decision, but when you already have one of the prettiest facesnoses in the game, one youve recieved tons of compliments for, why not leave as it is? jaws are inherently sharp if not covered by fat. just cause she is by far the most popular for her "perfect features" now so the end result was the most effective. Thread lifts claim to tighten your skin by inserting. But cosmetic surgery isn't an urban, cosmopolitan phenomenon in South Korea. While it was once an open secret that K-pop stars underwent cosmetic procedures in large numbers, a growing number of those stars are going public about their physical alterations. Then I remember thinking that Taehyung and Jin were the only natural members in BTS because most people thought so from an eye's glance. Joined Dec 19, 2019 Messages 4,513 Reactions . The girl group garnered international success too. Ladera Ranch, California, United States Aesthetic Nurse Injector and Laser Specialist . I'd like to mention it's now natural of him to pose this way whenever BTS appear. "There's a small backlash against it now, but they still only hire pretty people. Lets meet surely after the resurrection. She did rotation cut, nose, and eye.". It's Like We're Underwater. [or promoting surgery i guess] this mostly came from some1 on [another forum] saying txt looks plastic [thread about txt vs dream visuals] so i compared predebut to recent and was shocked tbh only did taehyun cause got lazy xD tbh further along his career he goes more predebut photos will realise and more be people will guess if they have or . . When you get your top lip done, this line goes up too. #1. i have mixed feelings about it. I know your sacrifices. It's also extremely painful. I just checked it looks like she got a slight nose job as well to reduce the tip in width, but it's ever so slightly, I don't know about treasure, what I tell people is even if they do or don't just accept how they look now, plastic surgery doesn't mean a person is ugly or embarrassment, it's perfectly normal for idols to want to look their best when performing how ever many times they do. Similar threads. South Korean employers scrutinize the looks of the applicants -- in search for physical attractiveness -- in addition to their professional qualifications. Dr. Kang's philosophy is about helping nature along. The most common procedure is double eyelid surgery, which creates a more Western-looking eye. Now if you were to change multiple features you can ask doctor to balance them around this changed feature, so obviously doctor would make them a matching set instead of having curtains and carpets in different styles. ", "Many people will look and say: I know that pretty girl. they asked the idol, much to Lau's surprise: "You got plastic surgery on your nose?" Chungha looks a bit different compared her produce 101 days. I think not. Professor Hejiin Lee said that many Korean Americans have only been in the U.S. a few generations and still have deep roots to Korean culture. "We all wanted to get some surgeries done to look prettier and thought, 'Why not perform a song about it instead of trying to conceal it?'" Your browser has JavaScript disabled. She wrote that the "alteration of Asian American women of facial features is less of a transforming process, and more of a normalizing one, "to allow them to fit in with their Western peers. Cosmetic surgery is a large part of creating the K-pop image. 2. When K-pop girl group Jewelry disbanded in 2015, lead dancer and vocalist Yewon joined the cast of reality TV showWe Got Married. After the Korean economic crisis in 1997, competition for jobs led to the surgery boom; people trying to get a leg up in the job market any way they can.". I just wish someone told all these idols(who were urged to get work done) that they were beautiful and lovely when they were young. During an eventful appearance on Radio Star, Kwanghee told host and former singer Yoon Jong Shin that he would be better looking if he got the inner corners of his eyes sewed up. But that's not all. Millard was chief plastic surgeon for the United States Marine Corps. At least I hope not cause most of them were still teens on treasure box. Self proclaimed Blue Chip of plastic surgery lol . The surgery quickly caught on. A powerful Korean consumer culture over the past two or three decades has made Korean women equate beauty with professional and economic success. Just a few months ago, his chin looked like this: This is the only good predebut I could find: It makes me sad that it's frequentlythe mainvocals who end up messing with their jaws/ chinarea when that's literally what they need to sing but I guess talent isn't enough in this industry. For the girls of Gumi, it's driven by videos from the WonderGirls and Girls Generation, girl groups that launched with 17 to 20-year-old singers. It really changes his whole feature, soften his face a lot. "My eyes are naturally uneven so I wanted to even them out. When people do it here, they update their will first in case of emergency." Overdrawn? It involves breaking and shaving the jawline to create a V-shaped face. The singer was asked about her comments (and the aftermath of them) on Radio Star, revealing that she accidentally caused a media storm. i think you must have not seen a lot of lean guys irl. The V-line shape gives the face a certain fragility, and its childlike appeal has won Kim over. enhancement; western; changes; plastic surgery; japan; south korea; . I'd like to debate the many noses of Lee Jong suk . View Profile View Forum Posts Deathcon 3 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 11,360 The only thing that she did get is veneers which is a cosmetic surgery. but I feel so sad for the kpop idols younger than 20 . Out of the seven girls I spoke with, only one had even been to the capital. Stayc Yoon comes to mind currently for the best example. Wonyoung was english kindergarden in korea with Victoria's name. "So many people have plastic surgeries in Gangnam, but famous doctors are limited. It also has created an identikit model, a face stamped out of a mold, and a replacement of one's identity with one of conformity. Also a lot of idols have been getting lip fillers, some of them had thin paper lips and now comeback looking like kylie Jenner, Theyve actually come forward saying it was a really bad photo the people that posted it, these are also her Predebut picture, 844E16A3-950A-4435-9730-EA3553DCAD54.jpeg4AD358F2-5F63-49B3-99C3-79FA02B70B4B.jpeg, And winter only got a nose job, her cheeks are still very full and chubby, and all kpop idols get double eyelid surgery, 67F232A5-3153-4143-95B4-EA0DC95F77B5.jpeg, Sana from twice got cheeksbones done/ facelift / jaw, 17DAC1E4-9904-4999-A07F-8EA8959F903F.jpeg, Nayeon got a nose job and eyes done / jaw, 65B97EFD-B739-4517-95D3-72F481C31319.jpeg, D6D9E4AE-DCEB-4505-B1CE-E93D42B308FE.jpeg, Momo got nose done and cheekbones done too, E1B044B1-7276-487F-87B8-6226BD45E472.jpeg, FCF4EC16-45C7-443E-9386-B93D99AFCBD2.jpeg, Tzuyu got eyes done/ a lot of enhancements and lip fillers she has the same nose though Its a make up trick. "I think if technology gets more advanced, maybe in the future everyone will get surgery, and then everyone will be beautiful!". The best plastic surgery is thesubtle one so that it doesn't ruin the ~harmony~, Ofc the said godly doctor himself would advise you against it to start with that's why I said that lol, like let's imagine you moved nostrils their absence in that area is usually very noticeable, and technically it's a very small surgery, Also about round face thing lol I was joking don't worry just my jokes are bad ^, Her top lip used to be smaller than the bottom too from what I see, I think filler for those (this I might be wrong, I think there is either a subtle filler, or she pouts in some of her pics intentionally), Yoon is an interesting onebecause she didn't do too much (only eyes and lips (yes, her lips are done)) but she looks like a doll. www.allkpop.com. Dr. David Nguyen specializes in Plastic Surgery of the Breast, Body, and Face, including Breast Augmentation, Breast Lift (Mastopexy), Tummy Tucks, Liposuction, Mommy Makeovers, and Facelifts. Job applicants, for example, are commonly required to submit a headshot with their resume. How do you tell the difference between buccal fat removal and masseter/jaw botox? She has some hope for change in Korean beauty -- but it's not what you might think. Plastic surgery has helped millions feel beautiful about themselves and that's amazing, but I worry about people who don't how much is enough and when to stop. I can never see myself getting plastic surgery not because I view it as an awful thing, but because it's just plain scary to imagine waking up to a new face in the mirror than the one your mother gave you. he asked. But the danger and the physical pain -- and the possible confusion of seeing a totally different person in the mirror -- is seen as a small price to pay by many Korean American women. "See this," he says. Dr. Kaw's background is in anthropology and her paper has been established as one of the first discourses on Asian American surgery. She did complain that because it didn't enhance her nose dramatically no one actually believed her when she had she already had surgery. It is pop culture that really introduces the idea of how transformation of your body can lead to success; maybe you too can become a pop star. The jaws are wired together for six weeks, and it can take six months for the swelling to disappear. Newer groups like TXT, Enhypen, and Aespa have members with very obvious plastic surgeries. Its not actually easy to make changes that doesn't feel like an alien on natural faces. If you didn't know them, there's noobviously enhanced featuresto clue you in to them having had work done--you probably wouldn't even question it. I suspect Soyeon got work done. He's had a bad nose job, maybe had his eye corners cut, and gets fillers. Her nose bridge seems significantly higher compared to her produce 101 days. The pressure on beauty may diminish. For example: Stayc Yoon comes to mind currently for the best example. Best & Worst Kpop Idol Plastic Surgery. Jahy. "Pretty is a small head, big eyes, and high nose and forehead," she says earnestly. You are the one who protected me when i was in trouble. You don't have to get Kai or Namjoo's nose to consider yournose job "bad". Quite a few have very obvious facial changes and there's a lot of unfortunate results. And it's not the only instance he's done this, I've noticed this change in his body language since the end of 2018. A mini face lift wouldnt do her any good either since she isnt in the criteria for one. ", Dr. Park said that changes to ethnic features are the main reason patients come to him. I feel bad for clogging up the thread with these posts when they're kind of irrelevant to plastic surgery lmao. More injections follow. Whatever you decide to do, people will always judge you, but they can only bring you down if you let them.". Kim hopes to study psychology when she goes to college, but she's deferring for a year so she can work and save money for more surgery. Rolling Stone called it the Korean version of the Pussycat Dolls, and the group became the first winner of the Billboard Japan award for K-Pop new artist of the year. The ideal nose type in Korea has a straight, pronounced bridge, with a small, rounded tip. Her embarrassingly low bows aren't the only thing she wishes she could change about her early days in the industry. She went from one of Kpop's most unique visuals and just about the prettiest critter . Hyomin has been open about her plastic surgery experience. Singer and rapper JooE is the face of six-member girl group Momoland, which was formed during the 2016 reality survival show,Finding Momoland. But we do see people looking to the consumer market for help in their personal lives. September 18, 2013 in Celebrity Photos & Videos. Register yourself now and be a part of our community! It's very sad how one bad procedure can not only throw off your whole face but can also look more noticeable than someone who has had way more work done. "Even though many Caucasians have small and slim faces, it doesn't mean Asians want to look like Caucasians. She's elbowed by her classmate Kang NaYeon on her left, and she shrugs and looks up again. Kwanghee (who happens to hold the Guinness World Record for wearing the most layers of clothing at one time) revealed that his own plastic surgeries were inspired by a member of K-pop group SS501. MY victory, one SYNK DIVE.